Olive Jane Nelson1

b. 10 Jul 1898, d. Dec 1919
FatherArthur Haydon Nelson1 b. 18 Jul 1872, d. 20 Jul 1941
MotherOlive Clara Thorne1 b. 29 Nov 1875, d. Mar 1956
Note*  Olive Jane known as Jinnie - born 1897. Jinnie attended Denmark St. School. She left to work at the I.R.G.P. works. She died in 1919 from heart trouble, aged 21.2 
Birth*10 Jul 1898 Olive Jane Nelson , daughter of Arthur Haydon Nelson and Olive Clara Thorne, was born on Sunday, 10 Jul 1898 at 24 Abbey St, Plaistow, Essex, England.3 
Baptism26 Jul 1898 Olive Jane Nelson was baptized on 26 Jul 1898 at St Andrew, Plaistow, Essex, England.3 
Birth RegSep 1898 Olive Jane Nelson's birth was registered in at West Ham, Essex, England, in the quarter ending at the end of Sep 1898.1 
(Witness) Census 190131 Mar 1901 She appeared as daughter age 2 in the home of Arthur Haydon Nelson and Olive Clara Thorne in the 1901 census at 24 Abbey Street, at West Ham; Arthur is 28 a general Carter, Olive is 25, 2 children at home.4 
(Witness) Census 19112 Apr 1911 Olive Jane Nelson appeared as daughter age 12 in the household of Arthur Haydon Nelson and Olive Clara Thorne in the 1911 census at 21 New Barn St, at Plaistow; Arthur, 38, is a boiler stoker. Olive is 35. They have been married 15 years 6 children of whom one has died 5 children and niece Maud Nelson , 23 at home. House has 4 rooms.5 
Death Reg*Dec 1919  Her death was registered in the quarter ending the end of Dec 1919 at West Ham, Essex, England: age 21.6 

Citations

  1. [S173] GRO Index "Birth: FmP: England & Wales Births 1837-2006 OLIVE JANE NELSON
    Birth year 1898 quarter 3 West Ham Volume 4A Page 68 Mother's maiden name Thorne."
  2. [S174] Information supplied by Roy Tom Martindell.
  3. [S177] Baptism Record "Baptism: FmP: Essex Baptism Index 1538-1920 Olive Jane Nelson
    Place Plaistow, St Andrew Birth date 10 Jul 1898 Baptism date 26 Jul 1898
    Mother; Olive Father Arthur Nelson Father's occupation Carman Residence 24 Abbey St
    Essex Record Office Archive reference D/P 527/1/5."
  4. [S175] Online image of the census "1901 Census: FmP: RG13 1574 139 17
    Arthur     Nelson     Head     Married     Male     28     1873     General Carter     Plaistow, Essex, England
    Olive     Nelson     Wife     Married     Female     25     1876     -     Canning Town, Essex, England
    James     Nelson     Son     Single     Male     5     1896     -     Plaistow, Essex, England
    Olive     Nelson     Daughter     Single     Female     2     1899     -     Plaistow, Essex, England."
  5. [S175] Online image of the census "1911 Census: FmP: RG14PN9513 RG78PN508 RD188 SD4 ED43 SN12
    Arthur     Nelson     Head     Married     Male     38     1873     Boiler Stocker     Essex West Ham
    Olive     Nelson     Wife     Married     Female     35     1876     -     Essex West Ham
    James     Nelson     Son     Single     Male     15     1896     Odd Boy     Essex West Ham
    Jane     Nelson     Daughter     -     Female     12     1899     School     Essex West Ham
    Arthur     Nelson     Son     -     Male     8     1903     -     Essex West Ham
    Walter     Nelson     Son     -     Male     7     1904     -     Essex West Ham
    Grace     Nelson     Daughter     -     Female     0     1911     -     Essex West Ham
    Maud     Nelson     Niece     Single     Female     23     1888     Motor And Cycle Maker Tyre     Essex West Ham
    Violet     Smith     Niece     -     Female     12     1899     School     Essex West Ham."
  6. [S173] GRO Index "Death; FmP; England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 OLIVE J NELSON
    Death quarter 4 1919 West Ham Volume 4A Page 10 Birth year 1898 Age 21."
Last Edited15 Oct 2019

Olive Matilda Nelson1,2

from Caroline Baber tree on Ancestry
b. 17 Nov 1920, d. Oct 2002
FatherJames George Nelson1 b. 27 Oct 1895, d. Sep 1978
MotherLily Furness1 b. 23 Jan 1894, d. Jun 1984
Note*  Olive - born 1920, married Len Bright born 1920. Olive attended Denmark St. School, and after leaving, worked at the I.R.G.P works where she met her husband Len. Len had his schooling in East Ham, and after leaving school at 14, tried various jobs. He was a painter with the East Ham Council for 2 years, but eventually joined the I.R.G.P. works. During World War II, he served in the R.A.F. in the Orkneys, Ireland, Scotland, France, Belgium, Denmark and Germany. He has a variety of interest, gardening, reading, archaeology, toy- making, painting and sport. He is musical, plays the accordion, and enjoys listening to classical music. They had two children.3 
Birth*17 Nov 1920 Olive Matilda Nelson , daughter of James George Nelson and Lily Furness, was born on Wednesday, 17 Nov 1920.4 
Birth RegDec 1920 Olive Matilda Nelson's birth was registered in at West Ham, Essex, England, in the quarter ending at the end of Dec 1920.1 
(Witness) 1939 Register29 Sep 1939 She is listed as Olive M Bright (Nelson) b:17 Nov 1920 Process Worker (Rubber) Single at the same address as James George Nelson and Lily Furness in the 1939 Register at 25 James Street, at West Ham; James b: 27Oct1895 is a General Labr. Lily b: 23 Jan 1984. Olive is at home but there are 5 closed records.4 
Marr Reg*Sep 1943 The marriage of Olive Matilda and Leonard Stanley Bright was registered in at West Ham, Essex, England, in the quarter ending at the end of Sep 1943.5 
Death Reg*Oct 2002  Her death was registered in the quarter ending the end of Oct 2002 at Greenwich, London, England: b: 17 Nov 1920.2 

Family

Leonard Stanley Bright b. 5 Sep 1920, d. Nov 1993

Citations

  1. [S173] GRO Index "Birth: FmP: England & Wales Births 1837-2006 OLIVE M NELSON
    Birth year 1920 quarter 4 West Ham Volume 4A Page 327 Mother's maiden name Furness."
  2. [S173] GRO Index "Death: FmP: England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 OLIVE MATILDA BRIGHT
    Birth day 17 Birth month 11 Birth year 1920 Death quarter 4 2002 Greenwich District number 2291B Register number B81 Entry number 264
    Date of registration mm/yy 1002."
  3. [S174] Information supplied by Roy Tom Martindell.
  4. [S172] Online index to the 1939 register (image seen) "1939 Reg: FmP: Ref: RG101/1040G/014/4 Letter Code: CBUE 25 James Street
    James G     Nelson     27 Oct 1895     Male     General Labr     Married     191     1
    Lily     Nelson     23 Jan 1894     Female     House Duties Unpaid     Married     191     2
    Olive M     Bright (Nelson)     17 Nov 1920     Female     Process Worker (Rubbr     Single     191."
  5. [S173] GRO Index "Marriage: Anc; England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005 Olive M Nelson
    Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep West Ham Volume 4a Page: 45 Spouse: Leonard S Bright."
Last Edited13 Oct 2019

Rachel Corrina Nelson1

b. 1896, d. 1986
ReferenceD3008-S1
Chartsline of Richard's Father c 1505
Birth*1896 Rachel Corrina Nelson whose parents are unknown was born in 1896.1 
Marriage*14 Sep 1921  On Wednesday, 14 Sep 1921 Rachel Corrina Nelson married Matthew Fergus Bandy, son of Matthew Wesley Bandy and Sarah Jane Ring, in Renfrew, Renfrew, ON, CAN,He is 28 a Telegraph Operator of Beachburg born McNab, son of Matthew Wesley BANDY (born Arnprior) & Sarah Jane RING (decd). She is a Widow (PEIRCE), 25, born Meath, daughter of William NELSON & Mary THRASHER.1,2 
Death*1986 Rachel Corrina Nelson died in 1986.1 

Family

Matthew Fergus Bandy b. 10 Sep 1892, d. 1975
Children

Citations

  1. [S39] Information from Willard Bandy by post Jul 2006.
  2. [S11] International Genealogical Index (IGI) :"Ontario Marriages, 1869-1927," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKM5-KM96 : 13 April 2015), Matthew Fergus Bandy and Rachel C Nelson Peirce, 14 Sep 1921; citing registration , Renfrew, Renfrew, Ontario, Canada, Archives of Ontario, Toronto; FHL microfilm 2,296,567. IMAGE SEEN.
Last Edited15 Apr 2019

Sarah Nelson1

b. 22 Jan 1832
FatherWilliam Nelson1 b. 11 Jul 1790, d. Jun 1873
MotherHannah Brown1 b. c 1792
Birthc 1832 Sarah Nelson , daughter of William Nelson and Hannah Brown, was born c 1832 at Suffolk, England.1 
Baptism*22 Jan 1832 Sarah Nelson was baptized on 22 Jan 1832 at St John the Baptist, Stoke by Clare, Suffolk, England; daughter of William (labr) & Hannah.2 
(Witness) Census 18416 Jun 1841 She appeared as age 9 in the household of William Nelson and Hannah Brown in the 1841 census at Stoke; William is 50, an Ag Lab, Hannah is 49, 4 children, all born Suffolk. Stoke is near Clare (actually Stoke by Clare on modern Maps) Ages over 15 were rounded down to the nearest 5.1 
(Witness) Census 185130 Mar 1851 Sarah Nelson was listed as unmarried daughter age 19, plaiter in the household of William Nelson and Hannah Brown in the census of 1851 at Stoke; William is 60, Labr born Glemsford, Hannah is 59, Chair [char?] woman, born Cavendish. 2 daughters at home as well as Emily age 3 noted as daughter, but prob granddaughter.3 

Citations

  1. [S175] Online image of the census "Census 1841 IMAGE SEEN;Genealogist: Stoke Registration District Newmarket & Risbridge HO107/1033/F?
    William     Nelson     50     1791          Yes     Agricultural Labourer           
    Hannah     Nelson     49     1792          Yes                
    Mary Ann     Nelson     19     1822          Yes                
    Caroline     Nelson     14     1827          Yes                
    James     Nelson     12     1829          Yes                
    Sarah     Nelson     9     1832          Yes.     "
  2. [S177] Baptism Record "Baptism: FmP: Suffolk Baptism Index 1538-1911
    Sarah Nelson
    Birth year     1832
    Baptism year     1832
    Baptism date     22 Jan 1832
    Parish     Stoke by Clare, St John the Baptist
    Place     Stoke By Clare
    Relationship     Dau
    Father's first name(s)     William
    Mothers first name(s)     Hannah
    Father's occupation     Labourer
    Residence     Stoke by Clare
    County     Suffolk
    Country     England
    Source     Suffolk Baptism Index (Part 3)
    Entry number     478."
  3. [S175] Online image of the census "Census 1851 Image seen FmP: Stoke, Risbridge, Suffolk, England, Risbridge HO107 1787 587 35
    William     Nelson     -     Married     Male     60     1791     Labr     Glemsford, Suffolk, England
    Hannah     Nelson     Wife     Married     Female     59     1792     Chair Woman     Suffolk, England
    Mary Ann     Nelson     Daughter     Unmarried     Female     28     1823     Platter     Stoke, Suffolk, England
    Sarah     Nelson     Daughter     Unmarried     Female     19     1832     Platter     Stoke, Suffolk, England
    Emily     Nelson     Daughter     -     Female     3     1848     -     Stoke, Suffolk, England."
Last Edited26 Aug 2019

Thomas Nelson1

b. 28 Aug 1722
FatherAbraham Nelson2 b. c 1693
MotherAnn Dale2 b. c 1693
Birth*28 Aug 1722 Thomas Nelson , son of Abraham Nelson and Ann Dale, was born on Friday, 28 Aug 1722.3 
Baptism12 Sep 1722 Thomas Nelson was baptized on 12 Sep 1722 at St Ethelbert & All Saints, Belchamp Otten, Essex, England; son of Abraham & Ann.1,2 
Marriage*28 Dec 1752  On Thursday, 28 Dec 1752 aged 30 Thomas Nelson married Mary Deal in St Ethelbert & All Saints, Belchamp Otten, Essex, England.4 

Family

Mary Deal b. c 1735
Children

Citations

  1. [S177] Baptism Record "Baptism:Genealogist; NO IMAGE: Parish » Parish Transcript Baptisms, Births and Bastardy Records » Full
    William Nelson
    Father's Name     Thomas Nelson     Mother's Name     Mary
    Date of Baptism     12th February 1764
    Place of Event     Belchamp Otten St Ethelbert & All Saints, Essex."
  2. [S177] Baptism Record "Baptism:Genealogist; NO IMAGE: Parish » Parish Transcript Baptisms, Births and Bastardy Records » Full
    Thomas Nelson
    Father's Name     Abraham Nelson     Mother's Name     Ann
    Date of Baptism     12th September 1722
    Date of Birth     28th August 1722
    Place of Event     Belchamp Otten St Ethelbert & All Saints, Essex
    Event     Baptism."
  3. [S177] Baptism Record "Baptism:F Search; NO IMAGE: England, Essex Parish Registers, 1538-1997     
    Thomas Nelson Event Type: Christening Event Date: 02 Sep 1722 Event Place: , Belchamp Otten, Essex, England
    Gender: Male Birth Date: 28 Aug 1722 Father's Name: Abraham Nelson Mother's Name: Ann Nelson."
  4. [S177] Baptism Record "Marriage; Genealogist: NO IMAGE: Parish » Parish Transcript Marriages, Licences and Banns » Full
    Thomas Nelson     Bride's Name     Marey Deall
    Date     28th December 1752
    Parish     Belchamp Otten St Ethelbert & All Saints
    Potential Places of Event     Belchamp Otten St Ethelbert & All Saints
    County     Essex
    Event     Marriage Record."
  5. [S177] Baptism Record "Baptism:Genealogist; NO IMAGE: Parish » Parish Transcript Baptisms, Births and Bastardy Records » Full
    Elizabeth     Nelson     28th November 1756     Belchamp Otten St Ethelbert & All Saints, Essex     Baptism     Thomas & Mary."
  6. [S177] Baptism Record "Baptism:Genealogist; NO IMAGE: Parish » Parish Transcript Baptisms, Births and Bastardy Records » Full
    Frances     Nelson     20th September 1761     Belchamp Otten St Ethelbert & All Saints, Essex     Baptism     Thomas & Mary."
Last Edited23 Jul 2019

Thomas James Nelson1

from Tom Martindill
b. Mar 1878, d. 1952
FatherJames Nelson2 b. c 1829, d. Jun 1881
MotherEliza Davies1 b. 24 Dec 1834, d. Dec 1925
Nickname  Thomas James Nelson also went by the name of Jim Born Thomas James, known as Jim, the last of the family of Eliza and James. Jim attended Denmark St. School. He served in the Merchant Navy for some years, and then went to work at the I.R.G.P. works until he retired. When he married Mary, she was a young widow who had lost both her husband and young baby within a year. She was a woman of striking looks, and these same looks were inherited by all her daughters, especially their lovely eyes. This family lived at No.7 James Street which is remembered by me as a home of fun and jollity, a party with a piano playing every Saturday night. They had nine children.1 
Birth16 Jan 1878 He , son of James Nelson and Eliza Davies, was born on Wednesday, 16 Jan 1878 at Plaistow, Essex, England.3,4 
Birth Reg*Mar 1878 Thomas James Nelson's birth was registered in at West Ham, Essex, England, in the quarter ending at the end of Mar 1878.1,5 
(Witness) Census 18813 Apr 1881 On 3 Apr 1881 the Census showed Thomas James Nelsonin the household of James Nelson and Eliza Davies at 25 James St, at West Ham; James is 51 born Clare, Suffolk a Marine - Fireman (M Seaman). Eliza is 46, born Deptford, Kent.3 
(Witness) Census 18915 Apr 1891 Thomas James Nelson was listed as James T son age 13, factory boy in the household of Eliza Davies in the 1891 census at 25 St james Street, at West Ham; Eliza is a Widow age 56, 5 children living at home.6 
(Witness) Census 190131 Mar 1901 Thomas James Nelson appeared as Unmarried Son age 23, Labourer in Soap Factory in the home of Eliza Davies in the 1901 census at 25 St james Street, at West Ham; Eliza 66 is living on own means. 3 children and 4 grandchildren in the house.7 
Marriage*1 Jun 1902  On Sunday, 1 Jun 1902 aged 24 Thomas James Nelson married Mary Ann Hayes, daughter of Cornelius Hayes and Margaret Reynolds, in St Mary The Virgin, Plaistow, Essex, England,He is 24, Labourer of 25 St James St, son of James (Labourer, decd), She is Mary Ann Reed, of 13 Frank St, widow, 22 daughter of Cornelius Hayes (Porter, decd)..1,2,8 
Marr RegJun 1902 The marriage of Thomas James and Mary Ann Hayes was registered in at West Ham, Essex, England, in the quarter ending at the end of Jun 1902.9 
Census 1911*31 Mar 1911 Thomas James Nelson and Mary Ann Hayes appeared in the 1911 census at 7 James St Plaistow, West Ham, Essex, England. Thomas is 33 a Dock Labourer, Mary is 31 (born Plaistow [sic]). they state married 8 years 4 children all living, a Nelson niece and a Hayes boarder. The house has 4 rooms including kitchen but ignoring wc etc.10 
1939 Register*29 Sep 1939  Thomas James Nelson is listed in the 1939 Register at 7 James Street, West Ham, Essex, England, he is described as Thomas is a widow born 16 Jan 1878. There are 4 other people in the house. One record is closed (person still living) the others are John Nelson Married born 11 mar 1914, his son, Arhur Nelson Single born 24 Nov 1906 another son and Catherine Nelson, Single born 26 Feb 1884, his niece by brother Henry Eves.11 
Death*1952 Thomas James Nelson died in 1952.4 

Family

Mary Ann Hayes b. Jun 1880, d. Sep 1933
Children

Citations

  1. [S174] Information supplied by Roy Tom Martindell "Tom Martindill's text work entitled "Nelson History.""
  2. [S176] Marriage: Ancestry: Essex Record Office; Chelmsford, Essex, England; Essex Church of England Parish Registers No Image;
    Mary Ann Reed [Mary Ann Hayes]
    Gender:     Female
    Marriage Age:     22
    Record Type:     Marriage
    Birth Date:     abt 1880
    Marriage Date:     1 Jun 1902
    Marriage Place:     Plaistow, St Mary The Virgin, Essex, England
    Father:     Cornelius Hayes
    Spouse:     Thomas James Nelson.
  3. [S175] Online image of the census "Census 1881: Image seen Ancestry: The National Archives of the UK (TNA); Kew, Surrey, England; Class: RG11; Piece: 1711; Folio: 55; Page: 34; GSU roll: 1341409."
  4. [S174] Information supplied by Roy Tom Martindell.
  5. [S173] GRO Index "Birth: Ancestry: Thomas James Nelson
    Registration Year:     1878
    Registration Quarter:     Jan-Feb-Mar
    Registration district:     West Ham
    Inferred County:     Essex
    Volume:     4a
    Page:     95."
  6. [S175] Online image of the census "1891 Census: Image seen: Genealogist: Census Transcript Household     Essex 1891 RG12/1323/F?
    transcription is incorrect occupations are shifted one line up, image used."
  7. [S175] Online image of the census "1901 Census: Image seen: Genealogist: Census Transcript Household     Essex 1891 RG13/1586/F?
    ttranscription of birth towns bad."
  8. [S176] Marriage Certificate on file.
  9. [S173] GRO Index "Marr: FmP: England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
    THOMAS JAMES NELSON Marriage quarter 2 Marriage year 1902 West Ham Volume 4A Page number 165
    MarriageFinder ™ THOMAS JAMES NELSON married one of these people Mary Ann Reed, Alice Louise Bates."
  10. [S175] Online image of the census "1911 Census: Image seen: FmP: RG14PN9513 RG78PN508 RD188 SD4 ED43 SN241
    Thomas     Nelson     Head     Married     Male     33     1878     Dock Labourer     Essex Plaistow
    Mary     Nelson     Wife     Married     Female     31     1880     -     Essex Plaistow
    James     Nelson     Son     -     Male     8     1903     -     Essex Plaistow
    Cornelius     Nelson     Son     -     Male     6     1905     -     Essex Plaistow
    Mary     Nelson     Daughter     -     Female     4     1907     -     Essex Plaistow
    Annie     Nelson     Daughter     -     Female     1     1910     -     Essex Plaistow
    John     Hayes     Boarder     Single     Male     27     1884     General Labourer     Essex Plaistow
    Catherine     Nelson     Niece     Single     Female     26     1885     Rubber Worker     Essex Canning Town."
  11. [S172] Online index to the 1939 register (image seen) "FmP: Ref: RG101/1040G/013/19 Letter Code: CBUE
    Thomas     Nelson     1878     16 Jan 1878     Male     Water Softener     Widowed     179     1
    John     Nelson     1914     11 Mar 1914     Male     Saleman (Flour Mill)     Married     179     2
    Arthur     Nelson     1906     24 Nov 1906     Male     Light Driver (Lorry)     Single     179     3
    The record for this person is officially closed.
    Catherine Nelson     1884     26 Feb 1884     Female     Workshop Cleaner     Single 179     5."
  12. [S173] GRO Index "FmP: Birth: England & Wales Births 1837-2006      JOHN W NELSON
    Birth year 1914 quarter 2 West Ham 4A Page 250 Mother's maiden name Hayes."
  13. [S173] GRO Index "Ancestry: England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index,: Arthur D Nelson
    Registration Date: Jan 1917 [Feb 1917] [Mar 1917] Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
    West Ham 4a Page Number: 217 Mother's Maiden Name: Hayes."
  14. [S173] GRO Index "FmP: Birth: England & Wales Births 1837-2006 BESSIE E NELSON
    Birth year 1920 quarter 4 West Ham 4A Page 244 Mother's maiden name Hayes."
  15. [S173] GRO Index "FmP: Birth: England & Wales Births 1837-2006 JOSEPH E C NELSON
    Birth year 1923 quarter 3 West Ham 4A Page 240 Mother's maiden name Hayes."
Last Edited21 May 2020

Violet Ellen Nelson1,2

b. 23 Dec 1919
FatherArthur Haydon Nelson1 b. 18 Jul 1872, d. 20 Jul 1941
MotherOlive Clara Thorne1 b. 29 Nov 1875, d. Mar 1956
Note*  Violet Ellen - born 1919. Married to Christopher Griffiths. Violet attended Denmark St. School, but was transferred to the Russell School. Keen sportswoman, netball, tennis and swimming. She played for the Russell O.S. after leaving school. She worked in the A.G.D of the Post Office, starting as a clerical assistant, and rising to become an executive officer. She represented her office at table tennis at which she excelled. During World War II she was evacuated with her department to Harrogate, but after her father's death applied for transfer back to London in order to be with her Mother whom she cared for until her Mother's death in 1956. In 1956 she married Chris, who at that time was with a firm of Merchant Bankers but has since changed jobs to be with Barclays Unicorn Trust. During the war he served in the Royal Navy. He is a keen sportsman, football, cricket and swimming. (He still is an evening swimming instructor). At one time he played football for Raith Rovers, (Scottish League). He still has interest in managing a team of youngsters, I believe he still trains with them. Vi teaches the skill of cake decorating at evening classes. Two of her pupils have been nieces, June and Jean. She also works as a bookkeeper for a small finance company. They have one daughter.2 
Birth*23 Dec 1919 Violet Ellen Nelson , daughter of Arthur Haydon Nelson and Olive Clara Thorne, was born on Tuesday, 23 Dec 1919 at 21 New Barn St, Plaistow, Essex, England.3 
Baptism13 Jan 1920 Violet Ellen Nelson was baptized on 13 Jan 1920 at St Mary the Virgin, Plaistow, Essex, England; There is also an identical baptism record for St Andrew, Plaistow (?).3 
Birth RegMar 1920 Violet Ellen Nelson's birth was registered in at West Ham, Essex, England, in the quarter ending at the end of Mar 1920.1 
(Witness) 1939 Register29 Sep 1939 She is listed as Violet Griffiths (Nelson) b:28 Dec 1919 Clerical Assistant G P O Single at the same address as Arthur Haydon Nelson and Olive Clara Thorne in the 1939 Register at 21 New Barn St, at Plaistow; Arthur b:18Jul1872 is a Coal Merchant Own Account Heavy Worker, Olive b: 29Nov1875. Three unmarried daughters at home.4 
Marr Reg*Sep 1956 The marriage of Violet Ellen and Christopher J Griffiths was registered in at West Ham, Essex, England, in the quarter ending at the end of Sep 1956.5 

Family

Christopher J Griffiths b. c 1919

Citations

  1. [S173] GRO Index "Birth: FmP: England & Wales Births 1837-2006 VIOLET E NELSON
    Birth year 1920 quarter 1 West Ham Volume 4A Page 360 Mother's maiden name Thorne."
  2. [S174] Information supplied by Roy Tom Martindell.
  3. [S177] Baptism Record "Baptism: FmP: Essex Baptism Index 1538-1920 Violet Ellen Nelson
    Birth date 23 Dec 1919 Baptism date 13 Jan 1920 Plaistow, St Mary the Virgin
    Mother's first name(s) Olive Father's first name(s) Arthur Nelson Father's occupation Stoker Residence 21 New Barn Street
    Essex Record Office Archive reference     D/P 528/1/4."
  4. [S172] Online index to the 1939 register (image seen) "1939 Reg: FmP: Ref: RG101/1050A/013/10 Letter Code: CBXR 21 New Barn Street
    Arthur H     Nelson     18 Jul 1872     Male     Coal Merchant Own Account Heavy Worker     Married     155     1
    Olive C     Nelson     29 Nov 1875     Female     Unpaid Domestic Duties     Married     155     2
    Grace M M     Bulmer (Nelson)     14 Jul 1910     Female     Trustier Chocolate Factory Heavy Worker     Single     155     3
    Lily E     Tansley (Nelson)     18 Sep 1917     Female     Clerk Ledger Machine     Single     155     4
    Violet E     Griffiths (Nelson)     28 Dec 1919     Female     Clerical Assistant G P O     Single     155     5."
  5. [S173] GRO Index "Marriage: FmP: England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005 VIOLET E NELSON
    Marriage quarter 3 1956 West Ham Volume 5A Page number 1867 Spouse's last name Griffiths
    VIOLET E NELSON married Christopher J Griffiths."
Last Edited21 Oct 2019

Walter J H A Nelson1

b. 2 May 1925, d. Oct 1992
FatherJoseph Nelson1 b. 22 Dec 1900, d. Jun 1966
MotherEdith Lilian M Burt1 b. Mar 1904
Birth*2 May 1925 Walter J H A Nelson , son of Joseph Nelson and Edith Lilian M Burt, was born on Saturday, 2 May 1925.2 
Birth RegJun 1925 Walter J H A Nelson's birth was registered in at Mile End, London, England, in the quarter ending at the end of Jun 1925.1 
(Witness) 1939 Register29 Sep 1939 He is listed as Walter b:02May1925 messenger boy (dry cleaners) at the same address as Joseph Nelson and Edith Lilian M Burt in the 1939 Register at 6 Bristol Road, at West Ham; Joseph is a Stoker ex Marine stoker b: 23Dec1900. Edith b 12Feb1904. 2 children at home.2 
Death*Oct 1992 Walter J H A Nelson died at age 67 , Havering, London in Oct 1992 (age 67 b: 2nd May 1925).3 

Citations

  1. [S173] GRO Index "Birth: Anc: in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1916-2007 Walter J H A Nelson
    egistration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun 1925 Mile End Volume Number: 1c Page Number: 486 Mother's Maiden Name: Burt."
  2. [S172] Online index to the 1939 register (image seen) "1939 Reg: FmP: Ref: RG101/1017I/013/15 Letter Code: CBBD
    Joseph     Nelson     23 Dec 1900     Male     Stoker Ex Marine S?Ker     Married     172     1
    Edith L M     Nelson     12 Feb 1904     Female     Unpaid Domestic Duties     Married     172     2
    Walter J K A     Nelson     02 May 1925     Male     Messenger Boy Fancy C?S)     Single     172     3
    Joan L     Nelson     25 Oct 1937     Female     Under School Age     Single     172     4."
  3. [S173] GRO Index "Death:Genealogist: Walter Joseph H A Nelson
    District Havering, Greater London October 1992 Date of Birth 2nd May 1925 Page 356 Volume 13."
Last Edited10 Oct 2019

Walter John Nelson1,2

b. Jun 1870, d. bt 1914 - 1918
FatherJames Nelson1 b. c 1829, d. Jun 1881
MotherEliza Davies1 b. 24 Dec 1834, d. Dec 1925
Note*  Walter John Nelson - born 1870. Little is known of Walter, who was killed in World War I. He served on a Mine-sweeper and was drowned. His memory is perpetuated on the War Memorial in East London Cemetry, Plaistow. He was married and has three children. A. Pat, B. Clara, C. Joseph. It is regretted that I have no further trace of this family.2 
Birth Reg*Jun 1870 Walter John Nelson's birth was registered in at West Ham, Essex, England, in the quarter ending at the end of Jun 1870.1,3 
(Witness) Census 18712 Apr 1871  On 2 Apr 1871 Walter John Nelson appearedin the household of James Nelson and Eliza Davies in this census at 25 James St, at West Ham; James is 41, a Steam Vessel Engineer born Clare, Suffolk. Eliza is 36 born Deptford. they have 7 children at home.4 
(Witness) Census 18813 Apr 1881 On 3 Apr 1881 the Census showed Walter John Nelsonin the household of James Nelson and Eliza Davies at 25 James St, at West Ham; James is 51 born Clare, Suffolk a Marine - Fireman (M Seaman). Eliza is 46, born Deptford, Kent.1 
(Witness) Census 18915 Apr 1891 Walter John Nelson was listed as son age 20, ship stoker in the household of Eliza Davies in the 1891 census at 25 St james Street, at West Ham; Eliza is a Widow age 56, 5 children living at home.5 
Marriage*16 Jun 1895  On Sunday, 16 Jun 1895 Walter John Nelson married Eliza Rayment in St Mary The Virgin, Plaistow, Essex, England.6 
Census 1901*31 Mar 1901 On 31 Mar 1901 Walter John Nelson and Eliza Rayment were listed the census at 8 Cooper St, Canning Town, Essex, England. Walter is 31, Self employed Dockyard Porterborn Plaistow. Eliza is 30 born Blackfriafrs. Son Joseph is 3 months old born Canning Town.7 
Census 1911*2 Apr 1911 Walter John Nelson and Eliza Rayment appeared in the 1911 census at 22 Watford Road Victoria Docks, Canning Town, Essex, England. Walter is 41 a Luggage Carrier. Eliza is 42. They have 4 children with them and a 14 yr old niece Jane Aplin. They say that they have been married 16 years and have had 7 children, two of whom have died. They have 5 rooms in what appears to be a shared address.8 
Criminal*17 Nov 1913  On 17 Nov 1913 Walter Walter John Nelson 43, Porter: Guilty, 9 months hard labour Wormwood Prison: Robbery with violence, stealing a watch from Frank Robertson. Not tred on ABH. Earlier 3 convictions for drunk & disorderly under Merchant Shipping Acts. A newspaper report says that he acted with some other men after drinking in a pub following attendance at a West Ham football match.9 
Death*bt 1914 - 1918 Walter John Nelson died bt 1914 - 1918 (died during first world war. There are at least two marine deaths of a Walter J. One on HMS Ganges, the other on HMS Drake. more research required.)2 

Family

Eliza Rayment b. c 1870, d. Dec 1935
Children

Citations

  1. [S175] Online image of the census "Census 1881: Image seen Ancestry: The National Archives of the UK (TNA); Kew, Surrey, England; Class: RG11; Piece: 1711; Folio: 55; Page: 34; GSU roll: 1341409."
  2. [S174] Information supplied by Roy Tom Martindell.
  3. [S173] GRO Index "Birth: Anc: in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915 Walter John Nelson
    1870 Quarter: Apr-May-Jun West Ham Volume: 4a Page: 64."
  4. [S175] Online image of the census "Census 1871: Imge seen: Ancestry: The National Archives; Kew, London, England; 1871 England Census; Class: RG10; Piece: 1632; Folio: 141; Page: 70; GSU roll: 829933."
  5. [S175] Online image of the census "1891 Census: Image seen: Genealogist: Census Transcript Household     Essex 1891 RG12/1323/F?
    transcription is incorrect occupations are shifted one line up, image used."
  6. [S176] Marriage: Anc: in the Essex, England, Church of England Marriages, 1754-1935
    Walter John Nelson Marriage Date: 16 Jun 1895 Plaistow, St Mary The Virgin, Essex, England Age: 25 Father: James Nelson
    Eliza Rayment Age: 25 Father: William Rayment.
  7. [S175] Online image of the census "1901 Census: Class: RG13; Piece: 1584; Folio: 36; Page: 10."
  8. [S175] Online image of the census "1901 Census: FmP: RG14PN9488 RG78PN508 RD188 SD4 ED18 SN235
    Walter John     Nelson     Head     Married     Male     41     1870     Carrier Luggage     Essex Plaistow
    Eliza     Nelson     Wife     Married     Female     42     1869     -     London Midx
    Joseph     Nelson     Son     Single     Male     11     1900     -     Essex Canigtown
    Clara     Nelson     Daughter     Single     Female     7     1904     -     Essex Canigtown
    Henry Eve     Nelson     Son     Single     Male     5     1906     -     Essex Canigtown
    Martha     Nelson     Daughter     Single     Female     3     1908     -     Essex Canigtown
    Caroline     Nelson     Daughter     -     Female     0     1911     -     Essex Canigtown
    Jane     Aplin     Niece     Single     Female     14     1897     -     Essex Canigtown."
  9. [S176] Criminal: FmP: England & Wales, Crime, Prisons & Punishment, 1770-1935 Walter John Nelson, Porter Age 43
    Date 11 Nov 1913 Court Central Criminal Court Victim's first name(s) Frank James Thain Watt Victim's last name Robertson
    Series     HO140 Calendar Of Prisoners For The Session Commencing For The Year 1913 Piece number 306.
  10. [S173] GRO Index "Birth:FmP: England & Wales Births 1837-2006 ELIZA JANE      NELSON
    Birth year 1896 quarter 4 West Ham Volume 4A Page 151 Mother's maiden name Rayment."
  11. [S173] GRO Index "Birth:FmP: England & Wales Births 1837-2006 MARY ANN NELSON
    Birth year 1899 quarter 1 West Ham volume 4A Page 136 Mother's maiden name Rayment."
Last Edited11 Oct 2019

Walter William Nelson1

from Caroline Baber tree on Ancestry
b. 28 May 1904, d. Sep 1975
FatherArthur Haydon Nelson1 b. 18 Jul 1872, d. 20 Jul 1941
MotherOlive Clara Thorne1 b. 29 Nov 1875, d. Mar 1956
Note*  Walter - born 1904. Married Emily Ovens. Wally attended Denmark St. School. When he was about seven years old, he suffered an accident with a tram, which caused his left arm to be amputated from the elbow. This did not handicap him very much. As a boy he played football and later was able to drive his Father's coal wagons and high carts with a pair of horses. His Father told of his ability to swing a sack if coal (1Cwt) on his back using only his one arm. It was he who drove his Uncle Bill to London Bridge station. After his Father's death when the family business was discontinued, he was employed by the West Ham Council as Hall Keeper at the Public Hall, Canning Town. Today he is retired. Emily and Wally have four children.2 
Birth*28 May 1904 Walter William Nelson , son of Arthur Haydon Nelson and Olive Clara Thorne, was born on Saturday, 28 May 1904 at 29 James St, Plaistow, Essex, England.3 
Baptism19 Jun 1904 Walter William Nelson was baptized on 19 Jun 1904 at Ss Philip & James, Plaistow, Essex, England.3 
Birth RegSep 1904 Walter William Nelson's birth was registered in at West Ham, Essex, England, in the quarter ending at the end of Sep 1904.1 
(Witness) Census 19112 Apr 1911 He appeared as son age 7 in the household of Arthur Haydon Nelson and Olive Clara Thorne in the 1911 census at 21 New Barn St, at Plaistow; Arthur, 38, is a boiler stoker. Olive is 35. They have been married 15 years 6 children of whom one has died 5 children and niece Maud Nelson , 23 at home. House has 4 rooms.4 
Marr Reg*Sep 1927 The marriage of Walter William and Emily M Ovens was registered in at West Ham, Essex, England, in the quarter ending at the end of Sep 1927.5 
1939 Register*29 Sep 1939  Walter William Nelson is listed in the 1939 Register with Emily M Ovens at 143 Bidder Street, West Ham, Essex, England, he is described as Walter b: 28 May 1904 sis a Coal Loader & Carman (ARP training for demolition?). Emily b: 03 Jul 1905. one closed record. other children already evacuated?6 
Note6 Jul 1975  Caroline Baber reports: death 6 JUL 1975 • London Chest Hospital, Bethnel Green. c.o.d: Acute Myocardial, Infarction, Right basal pneumonia, Carcinoma of left lung on 6 Jul 1975.7 
Death Reg*Sep 1975  His death was registered in the quarter ending the end of Sep 1975 at Poplar and Bethnal Green, London, England.8 

Family

Emily M Ovens b. 3 Jul 1905, d. Mar 1991

Citations

  1. [S173] GRO Index "Birth: FmP: England & Wales Births 1837-2006 WALTER WILLIAM NELSON
    Birth year 1904 quarter 3 West Ham Volume 4A Page 130 Mother's maiden name Thorne."
  2. [S174] Information supplied by Roy Tom Martindell.
  3. [S177] Baptism Record "Baptism: FmP: Essex Baptism Index 1538-1920 Walter William Nelson Plaistow, Ss Philip & James
    Birth date 28 May 1904 Baptism date 19 Jun 1904 Mother's first name(s) Olive Clara
    Father's first name(s) Arthur Hayden Nelson Father's occupation Carman Residence 29 James St
    Essex Record Office Archive reference D/P 528/1/1."
  4. [S175] Online image of the census "1911 Census: FmP: RG14PN9513 RG78PN508 RD188 SD4 ED43 SN12
    Arthur     Nelson     Head     Married     Male     38     1873     Boiler Stocker     Essex West Ham
    Olive     Nelson     Wife     Married     Female     35     1876     -     Essex West Ham
    James     Nelson     Son     Single     Male     15     1896     Odd Boy     Essex West Ham
    Jane     Nelson     Daughter     -     Female     12     1899     School     Essex West Ham
    Arthur     Nelson     Son     -     Male     8     1903     -     Essex West Ham
    Walter     Nelson     Son     -     Male     7     1904     -     Essex West Ham
    Grace     Nelson     Daughter     -     Female     0     1911     -     Essex West Ham
    Maud     Nelson     Niece     Single     Female     23     1888     Motor And Cycle Maker Tyre     Essex West Ham
    Violet     Smith     Niece     -     Female     12     1899     School     Essex West Ham."
  5. [S173] GRO Index "Marriage: FmP: England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005 WALTER W NELSON
    Marriage quarter 3 1927 West Ham Volume 4A Page 831 Spouse's last name Ovens
    WALTER W NELSON married Emily M Ovens."
  6. [S172] Online index to the 1939 register (image seen) "19939 rEG: FmP: Ref: RG101/1039G/009/7 Letter Code: CBPS 143 Bidder Street
    Walter W     Nelson     28 May 1904     Male     Coal Loader & Carman     Married     81     1
    Emily M     Nelson     03 Jul 1905     Female     Unpaid Domestic Duties     Married     81     2
    The record for this person is officially closed."
  7. [S178] Online tree or source "caroline Baber: Anc."
  8. [S173] GRO Index "Death: Anc: England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Walter William Nelson
    Death Age: 71 Birth Date: 28 May 1904 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep 1975 Poplar and Bethnal Green Volume: 14 Page: 1151."
Last Edited16 Oct 2019

William Nelson1

b. Mar 1866, d. c 1935
FatherJames Nelson1 b. c 1829, d. Jun 1881
MotherEliza Davies1 b. 24 Dec 1834, d. Dec 1925
Note*  William Nelson born 1868 - William is one of the five brothers to work at the I.R.G.P. works. He married and had three children. Two of them emigrated to the U.S.A. Around 1929, after the death of his wife Minnie, he decided to go to the U.S.A. and make his home there with his children. I can remember him visiting his brother and sisters to bid them farewell. He was due to leave London Bridge station at 2 a.m. and as there was no transport available at that early hour in those days, he was transported thence by his nephew Walter, son of Arthur, driving one of his Father's carts.2 
Birth Reg*Mar 1866 William Nelson's birth was registered in at Greenwich, Kent, England, in the quarter ending at the end of Mar 1866.1,3 
(Witness) Census 18712 Apr 1871  On 2 Apr 1871 William Nelson appearedin the household of James Nelson and Eliza Davies in this census at 25 James St, at West Ham; James is 41, a Steam Vessel Engineer born Clare, Suffolk. Eliza is 36 born Deptford. they have 7 children at home.4 
(Witness) Census 18813 Apr 1881 On 3 Apr 1881 the Census showed William Nelson as Oilman age 15 in the household of James Nelson and Eliza Davies at 25 James St, at West Ham; James is 51 born Clare, Suffolk a Marine - Fireman (M Seaman). Eliza is 46, born Deptford, Kent.1 
Marriage*24 Apr 1887  On Sunday, 24 Apr 1887 aged 21 William Nelson married Margaret Alice Gill in St Mary the Virgin, Plaistow, Essex, England.5 
Marr RegJun 1887 The marriage of William and Margaret Alice Gill was registered in at West Ham, Essex, England, in the quarter ending at the end of Jun 1887.6 
Census 1891*5 Apr 1891 William Nelson and Margaret Alice Gill appeared in the 1891 census at Whitwell Road, West Ham, Essex, England. William is 25, Spreader Of Waterproof. Margaret is 23 born Stoke Newington. 2 children present and Sussanna W Gill, 17 Tailoress, Margarets sister.7 
Census 1901*31 Mar 1901 On 31 Mar 1901 William Nelson and Margaret Alice Gill were listed the census at 203, Grange Road, West Ham, Essex, England. William, 35 is an India Rubber Worker. "Alice" is 32. 2 children present and a border.8 
Census 1911*2 Apr 1911 William Nelson appeared in the 1911 census at 8 Gray St, Silvertown, West Ham, Essex, England. William is now Widowed, 44 an India Rubber worker. Daughter Minnie and son James are with him plus Jane Ann Chilton and her son his Grandson Charles William Nelson age 1.9 
Emigration*17 Aug 1929 He emigrated on 17 Aug 1929 from Southampton, Hampshire, England, to New York on "Berengeria" William Nelson Widow age 63 "Rubber Perodr" born Deptford visa No. 4022, arrived 23 Aug 1929.10 
(Witness) Census1930 He appeared as William age 64, immigrant in 1929 b: England is a Rubber worker in an Auto Factory on the census of 1930 in the household of William Charles Nelson and Jane Ann Chilton at 31 Delaware, Flint, Genesee, Michigan, USA; William is 42, married 20 years, Naturalized, owns house worth $9000, owns a Radio, is a Macinist in an Auto Factory. Jane 42 is not Naturalized, a Factory hand in an Auto Factory. His father and 2 sons and 2 daughters are with them.11 
Death*c 1935 William Nelson died c 1935.2 

Family

Margaret Alice Gill b. Sep 1867, d. Dec 1909
Children

Citations

  1. [S175] Online image of the census "Census 1881: Image seen Ancestry: The National Archives of the UK (TNA); Kew, Surrey, England; Class: RG11; Piece: 1711; Folio: 55; Page: 34; GSU roll: 1341409."
  2. [S174] Information supplied by Roy Tom Martindell.
  3. [S173] GRO Index "Birth: FmP: England & Wales Births 1837-2006 WILLIAM NELSON
    Birth year 1866 quarter 1 Greenwich Volume 1D Page 690 Mother's maiden name Davies."
  4. [S175] Online image of the census "Census 1871: Imge seen: Ancestry: The National Archives; Kew, London, England; 1871 England Census; Class: RG10; Piece: 1632; Folio: 141; Page: 70; GSU roll: 829933."
  5. [S176] Marriage: FmP: Essex Marriages And Banns 1537-1935 William Nelson
    Residence Plaistow Marriage date 24 Apr 1887 Plaistow, St Mary the Virgin Father's first name(s) James Nelson Father's occupation Fireman
    Spouse's first name(s) Margaret Alice Gill Spouse's marital status S Spouse's residence Plaistow Spouse's father's first name(s) Charles Gill
    Essex Record Office Archive reference D/P 597/1/32 Page number 64.
  6. [S173] GRO Index "Marruage: FmP: England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005 WILLIAM NELSON
    Marriage quarter 2 1887 West Ham Volume 4A Page number 121
    WILLIAM NELSON married one of these people Margaret Alice Gill, Hannah Martha White."
  7. [S175] Online image of the census "1891 Census: FmP: RG12 1324 46 33
    William     Nelson     Head     Married     Male     25     1866     Spreader Of Waterproof     Kent, England
    Margaret A     Nelson     Wife     Married     Female     23     1868     -     London, Middlesex, England
    William C     Nelson     Son     -     Male     3     1888     -     Essex, England
    Ivy A     Nelson     Daughter     -     Female     1     1890     -     Essex, England
    Susanna W     Gill     Sister In Law     Single     Female     17     1874     Tailoress     Essex, England."
  8. [S175] Online image of the census "1901 Census: FmP: RG13 1575 53 36
    William     Nelson     Head     Married     Male     35     1866     India Rubber Worker     Deptford, Kent, England
    Alice     Nelson     Wife     Married     Female     32     1869     -     Stoke Newington, Middlesex, England
    William     Nelson     Son     Single     Male     13     1888     -     Plaistow, Essex, England
    Minnie     Nelson     Daughter     Single     Female     8     1893     -     Plaistow, Essex, England
    Annie Thorn     Boarder     Married     Female     35     1866     Leather Worker     Long Marston, Hertfordshire, England."
  9. [S175] Online image of the census "1911 Census: FmP: RG14PN9473 RG78PN508 RD188 SD4 ED3 SN223
    William     Nelson     Head     Widower     Male     44     1867     India Rubber Sparden     Kent Deptford
    Minnie     Nelson     Daughter     Single     Female     18     1893     Water Proof Worker     Essex West Ham
    James Jo     Nelson     Son     Single     Male     16     1895     -     Essex West Ham
    Jane Ann     Chilton     Boarder     Single     Female     22     1889     Waitress     London Middlesex Bromley Bow
    Charles William     Nelson     Grandson     -     Male     1     1910     -     Essex West Ham (mistranscription corrected by DB)."
  10. [S176] New York, Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957 for William Nelson
    Berengaria 17Aug1929 Southampton to New York.
  11. [S175] Online image of the census "US 1930 Census: Anc: Year: 1930; Census Place: Flint, Genesee, Michigan; Page: 2A; Enumeration District: 0031; FHL microfilm: 2340720."
  12. [S173] GRO Index "Birth: FmP: England & Wales Births 1837-2006 WILLIAM CHARLES NELSON
    Birth year 1887 quarter 4 West Ham Volume 4A Page 134 Mother's maiden name Gill."
  13. [S173] GRO Index "Birth: FmP: England & Wales Births 1837-2006 IVY AGNES NELSON
    Birth year 1890 quarter 1 West Ham Volume 4A Page 73 Mother's maiden name Gill."
  14. [S173] GRO Index "Birth: FmP: England & Wales Births 1837-2006 MINNIE NELSON
    Birth year 1892 quarter 1 West Ham Volume 4A Page 82 Mother's maiden name Gill."
  15. [S173] GRO Index "Birth: FmP: England & Wales Births 1837-2006 JAMES JOSEPH NELSON
    Birth year 1894 quarter 3 West Ham Volume 4A Page 54 Mother's maiden name Gill."
Last Edited10 Sep 2019

William Nelson1

b. 11 Jul 1790, d. Jun 1873
FatherWilliam Nelson2 b. 12 Feb 1764
MotherSarah Copsey2 b. 22 Mar 1767
Birthc 1790 William Nelson , son of William Nelson and Sarah Copsey, was born c 1790 at Glemsford, Suffolk, England.1,3 
Baptism*11 Jul 1790 William Nelson was baptized on 11 Jul 1790 at Glemsford, Suffolk, England; son of William & Sarah.2 
Marriage*21 Jul 1816  On Sunday, 21 Jul 1816 aged 26 William Nelson married Hannah Brown in Cavendish, Suffolk, England.1,4 
Census 1841*6 Jun 1841 William Nelson was and Hannah Brown were living in Stoke Suffolk in the first national census in 1841, William is 50, an Ag Lab, Hannah is 49, 4 children, all born Suffolk. Stoke is near Clare (actually Stoke by Clare on modern Maps) Ages over 15 were rounded down to the nearest 5.1 
Census 1851*30 Mar 1851 In the 1851 census William Nelson and Hannah Brown appeared: at Stoke, Suffolk, England. William is 60, Labr born Glemsford, Hannah is 59, Chair [char?] woman, born Cavendish. 2 daughters at home as well as Emily age 3 noted as daughter, but prob granddaughter.3 
Census 1861*7 Apr 1861 William Nelson and Hannah Brown appeared in the 1861 census at 63 High Street, Stoke, Suffolk, England. William is 70 an Ag Lab born Glemsford Suffolk. Hannah is 69 a straw plaiter born Carendish, Suffolk. Mary Ann and granddaugter Emily are with them.5 
(Witness) Census 18712 Apr 1871  On 2 Apr 1871 William Nelson appeared as widowed father-in-law age 80 in the household of Maria Nelson and John Gibbons in this census at Stoke; John Gibbons, 53, farm laborer, wife Maria, 51. Her father is with them.6 
Death Reg*Jun 1873  His death was registered in the quarter ending the end of Jun 1873 at Risbridge, Suffolk, England: agd 82.7 

Family

Hannah Brown b. c 1792
Children

Citations

  1. [S175] Online image of the census "Census 1841 IMAGE SEEN;Genealogist: Stoke Registration District Newmarket & Risbridge HO107/1033/F?
    William     Nelson     50     1791          Yes     Agricultural Labourer           
    Hannah     Nelson     49     1792          Yes                
    Mary Ann     Nelson     19     1822          Yes                
    Caroline     Nelson     14     1827          Yes                
    James     Nelson     12     1829          Yes                
    Sarah     Nelson     9     1832          Yes.     "
  2. [S177] Baptism Record "baptism: IGI: William Nelson England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 NO IMAGE
    William Nelson
    Gender:     Male
    Christening Date:     11 Jul 1790C
    Christening Place:     GLEMSFORD,SUFFOLK,ENGLAND
    Father's Name:Willm. Nelson
    Mother's Name: Sarah."
  3. [S175] Online image of the census "Census 1851 Image seen FmP: Stoke, Risbridge, Suffolk, England, Risbridge HO107 1787 587 35
    William     Nelson     -     Married     Male     60     1791     Labr     Glemsford, Suffolk, England
    Hannah     Nelson     Wife     Married     Female     59     1792     Chair Woman     Suffolk, England
    Mary Ann     Nelson     Daughter     Unmarried     Female     28     1823     Platter     Stoke, Suffolk, England
    Sarah     Nelson     Daughter     Unmarried     Female     19     1832     Platter     Stoke, Suffolk, England
    Emily     Nelson     Daughter     -     Female     3     1848     -     Stoke, Suffolk, England."
  4. [S176] Marriage: IGI (no image): William Nelson England Marriages, 1538–1973
    William Nelson
    Spouse's Name: Hannah Brown
    Event Date: 21 Jul 1816
    Event Place: Cavendish, Suffolk, England
    Ancestry: FHL Film Number: 994070 Reference ID: 2:3VZNNKL.
  5. [S175] Online image of the census "Census 1861: IMAGE SEEN: Genealogist: RG9/1126/F?"
  6. [S175] Online image of the census "1871 Census: Image seen: England; 1871 England Census; Class: RG10; Piece: 1713; Folio: 155; Page: 16; GSU roll: 830757."
  7. [S173] GRO Index "Death: Genealogist: William Nelson
    District     Risbridge, Suffolk
    Date of Birth (Calculated)     1791
    Age     82
    Page     0269
    Volume     4A
    Registered     April - June 1873."
  8. [S177] Baptism Record "Baptism: FmP: England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
    William Nelson
    Birth year     1816
    Birth place     -
    Baptism year     1816
    Baptism date     22 Sep 1816
    Place     Cavendish
    County     Suffolk
    Country     England
    Father's first name(s)     William
    Father's last name     Nelson
    Mother's first name(s)     Hannah."
  9. [S177] Baptism Record "Baptism: FmP: Suffolk Baptism Index 1538-1911
    First name(s)     Maria
    Last name     Nelson
    Birth year     1819
    Baptism year     1819
    Baptism date     10 Oct 1819
    Parish     Stoke by Clare, St John the Baptist
    Place     Stoke By Clare
    Relationship     Dau
    Father's first name(s)     William
    Mothers first name(s)     Hannah
    Father's occupation     Labourer
    Residence     Stoke by Clare
    County     Suffolk."
Last Edited23 Jul 2019

William Nelson1

b. 12 Feb 1764
FatherThomas Nelson2 b. 28 Aug 1722
MotherMary Deal2 b. c 1735
Birth*12 Feb 1764 William Nelson , son of Thomas Nelson and Mary Deal, was born on Sunday, 12 Feb 1764 at St Ethelbert & All Saints, Belchamp Otten, Essex, England; Son of Thomas. This MIGHT be the man who married in Glemsford 6 miles away.3,2 
Marriage*12 Oct 1789  On Monday, 12 Oct 1789 aged 25 William Nelson married Sarah Copsey, daughter of James Copsey and Sarah Unknown, in Glemsford, Suffolk, England.1,4 

Family

Sarah Copsey b. 22 Mar 1767
Children

Citations

  1. [S177] Baptism Record "baptism: IGI: William Nelson England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 NO IMAGE
    William Nelson
    Gender:     Male
    Christening Date:     11 Jul 1790C
    Christening Place:     GLEMSFORD,SUFFOLK,ENGLAND
    Father's Name:Willm. Nelson
    Mother's Name: Sarah."
  2. [S177] Baptism Record "Baptism:Genealogist; NO IMAGE: Parish » Parish Transcript Baptisms, Births and Bastardy Records » Full
    William Nelson
    Father's Name     Thomas Nelson     Mother's Name     Mary
    Date of Baptism     12th February 1764
    Place of Event     Belchamp Otten St Ethelbert & All Saints, Essex."
  3. [S176] Family tree: Ancestry: Caroline Barber (CarolineCheal): This tree goes back to William Nelson & Sarah Copsey. It takes Sarah Copsey back to Richard Copsey b:1525.
  4. [S176] Marriage: Ancestry: Ancestry.com. England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 FHL Film Number: 887397
    Sarah Copsey
    Gender:     Female
    Marriage Date:     12 Oct 1789
    Marriage Place:     Glemsford, Suffolk, England
    Spouse:     William Nelson.
  5. [S177] Baptism Record "Baptism:F Search; NO IMAGE: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975     
    James Nelson Gender: Male Christening Date: 30 Oct 1791 Christening Place: GLEMSFORD,SUFFOLK,ENGLAND
    Father's Name: William Nelson Mother's Name: Sarah."
  6. [S177] Baptism Record "Baptism:F Search; NO IMAGE: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
    Maria Nelson gender: Female Christening Date: 04 Jan 1795 Christening Place: GLEMSFORD,SUFFOLK,ENGLAND
    Death Date: 18 Mar 1796 Father's Name: William Nelson Mother's Name: Sarah."
  7. [S177] Baptism Record "Baptism:F Search; NO IMAGE: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975     
    John Nelson Gender: Male Christening Date: 11 Jun 1797
    Christening Place: GLEMSFORD,SUFFOLK,ENGLAND Father's Name: William Nelson Mother's Name: Sarah."
Last Edited30 Jul 2019

William Nelson1

b. 21 Sep 1816
FatherWilliam Nelson1 b. 11 Jul 1790, d. Jun 1873
MotherHannah Brown1 b. c 1792
Birth*21 Sep 1816 William Nelson , son of William Nelson and Hannah Brown, was born on Saturday, 21 Sep 1816.1,2 
Baptism22 Sep 1816 William Nelson was baptized on 22 Sep 1816 at Cavendish, Suffolk, England; Son of William & Hannah.1 
Marr Reg*Dec 1842 The marriage of William and Elizabeth Harris was registered in at Bermondsey, Surrey, England, in the quarter ending at the end of Dec 1842.3 
Census 1851*30 Mar 1851 In the 1851 census William Nelson and Elizabeth Harris appeared: at 219 Broomfield Place, Deptford, Kent, England. William is 34 a Labourer, Elizabeth is 30. They have 2 daughters and his brother James, 22 labourer with them. the brothers both born Suffolk.4 

Family

Elizabeth Harris b. c 1820

Citations

  1. [S177] Baptism Record "Baptism: FmP: England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
    William Nelson
    Birth year     1816
    Birth place     -
    Baptism year     1816
    Baptism date     22 Sep 1816
    Place     Cavendish
    County     Suffolk
    Country     England
    Father's first name(s)     William
    Father's last name     Nelson
    Mother's first name(s)     Hannah."
  2. [S177] Baptism Record "Baptism:F Search; NO IMAGE: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
    William Nelson Christening Date: 22 Sep 1816 Christening Place: CAVENDISH,SUFFOLK,ENGLAND
    Birth Date: 21 Sep 1816 Father's Name: William Nelson Mother's Name: Hannah."
  3. [S173] GRO Index "Marriage: Genealogist; Elizabeth Harris
    District     Bermondsey, Surrey Page 0015 Volume 4."
  4. [S175] Online image of the census "1851 Census: Image seen: Ancestry: Class: HO107; Piece: 1584; Folio: 653; Page: 40; GSU roll: 174820-174821."
Last Edited26 Aug 2019

William Charles Nelson1

b. 20 Oct 1887
FatherWilliam Nelson1 b. Mar 1866, d. c 1935
MotherMargaret Alice Gill1 b. Sep 1867, d. Dec 1909
Note*  William - William married Jenny Chilton, in England but emigrated to the U.S.A. in 1909. Upon arrival he worked for Joseph Thomas (husband of his Father's cousin) at Northport, Michigan. Afterwards for Buick, in Flint, until 1944 when he and Jenny moved to Temple City, California. He died in 1963, and his wife Jenny went to live with his sister Minnie in Flint, Michigan. In 1965 she came to England to visit her daughter Margaret, and died here. They had four children.2 
Birth*20 Oct 1887 William Charles Nelson , son of William Nelson and Margaret Alice Gill, was born on Thursday, 20 Oct 1887 at Plaistow, Essex, England.3 
Birth RegDec 1887 William Charles Nelson's birth was registered in at West Ham, Essex, England, in the quarter ending at the end of Dec 1887.1 
Baptism1 Jan 1888 He was baptized on 1 Jan 1888 at St Mary The Virgin, Plaistow, Essex, England.3 
(Witness) Census 18915 Apr 1891 He was listed as age 3 in the household of William Nelson and Margaret Alice Gill in the 1891 census at Whitwell Road, at West Ham; William is 25, Spreader Of Waterproof. Margaret is 23 born Stoke Newington. 2 children present and Sussanna W Gill, 17 Tailoress, Margarets sister.4 
(Witness) Census 190131 Mar 1901 William Charles Nelson appeared as William is 13 in the home of William Nelson and Margaret Alice Gill in the 1901 census at 203, Grange Road, at West Ham; William, 35 is an India Rubber Worker. "Alice" is 32. 2 children present and a border.5 
Emigration*6 Feb 1909 William Charles Nelson emigrated on 6 Feb 1909 from Southampton, Hampshire, England, on ship "St Paul" age 21y 3mths, Single Labourer n.o.k: William Nelson 203 Grange Rd Plaistow going to Northport Michigan.6 
Marriage*  William Charles Nelson married Jane Ann Chilton,This marriage has not been found in the US or English records. 
Census*1920 William Charles Nelson and Jane Ann Chilton appeared on the census of 1920 at 752 Custom St, Genesee, Michigan, USA; William is 32, b: England a Machinist in an Auto factory. He owns his own home with a mortgage. His Naturalization papers have been submitted. Jane is 32. There are three children with them William, Margaret and Catherine.7 
Census1930 William Charles Nelson and Jane Ann Chilton appeared on the census of 1930 at 31 Delaware, Flint, Genesee, Michigan, USA; William is 42, married 20 years, Naturalized, owns house worth $9000, owns a Radio, is a Macinist in an Auto Factory. Jane 42 is not Naturalized, a Factory hand in an Auto Factory. His father and 2 sons and 2 daughters are with them.8 
Census1940 William Charles Nelson and Jane Ann Chilton appeared on the census of 1940 at 1450 Jane Avenue, Flint, Genesee, Michigan, USA; William is 52, Naturalized, a Machinist working 40 hrs week, owns home, income $1730. Jane, 52, an Alien does not work. only son Edward is with them.9 

Family

Jane Ann Chilton b. c 1889
Children

Citations

  1. [S173] GRO Index "Birth: FmP: England & Wales Births 1837-2006 WILLIAM CHARLES NELSON
    Birth year 1887 quarter 4 West Ham Volume 4A Page 134 Mother's maiden name Gill."
  2. [S174] Information supplied by Roy Tom Martindell.
  3. [S177] Baptism Record "Baptism: Anc: in the Essex, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1918 William Charles Nelson
    Age: 0 Birth Date: 20Oct1887 Baptism Date: 1 Jn 1888 Plaistow, St Mary The Virgin, Essex, England
    Father: Wlliam Nelson Mother: Alice Nelson."
  4. [S175] Online image of the census "1891 Census: FmP: RG12 1324 46 33
    William     Nelson     Head     Married     Male     25     1866     Spreader Of Waterproof     Kent, England
    Margaret A     Nelson     Wife     Married     Female     23     1868     -     London, Middlesex, England
    William C     Nelson     Son     -     Male     3     1888     -     Essex, England
    Ivy A     Nelson     Daughter     -     Female     1     1890     -     Essex, England
    Susanna W     Gill     Sister In Law     Single     Female     17     1874     Tailoress     Essex, England."
  5. [S175] Online image of the census "1901 Census: FmP: RG13 1575 53 36
    William     Nelson     Head     Married     Male     35     1866     India Rubber Worker     Deptford, Kent, England
    Alice     Nelson     Wife     Married     Female     32     1869     -     Stoke Newington, Middlesex, England
    William     Nelson     Son     Single     Male     13     1888     -     Plaistow, Essex, England
    Minnie     Nelson     Daughter     Single     Female     8     1893     -     Plaistow, Essex, England
    Annie Thorn     Boarder     Married     Female     35     1866     Leather Worker     Long Marston, Hertfordshire, England."
  6. [S176] Emigration: Anc: New York, Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957 for William Charles Nelson
    Roll T715, 1897-1957 1001-2000 Roll 1200.
  7. [S175] Online image of the census "US 1920 Census: Anc: Year: 1920; Census Place: Flint Ward 1, Genesee, Michigan; Roll: T625_764; Page: 8A; Enumeration District: 22."
  8. [S175] Online image of the census "US 1930 Census: Anc: Year: 1930; Census Place: Flint, Genesee, Michigan; Page: 2A; Enumeration District: 0031; FHL microfilm: 2340720."
  9. [S175] Online image of the census "US 1940 Census: Anc: Year: 1930; Year: 1940; Census Place: Flint, Genesee, Michigan; Roll: m-t0627-01894; Page: 5B; Enumeration District: 85-70."
  10. [S173] GRO Index "Birth: FmP: England & Wales Births 1837-2006 CHARLES WILLIAM NELSON
    Birth year 1909 quarter 3 West Ham Volume 4A Page 96 Mother's maiden name Chilton."
Last Edited8 Sep 2019

Ann New1,2

b. c 1680
ReferenceD3388-S1
Birth*c 1680 Ann New whose parents are unknown was born c 1680.1 
Marriage*7 Jun 1696  On Thursday, 7 Jun 1696 Ann New married Thomas Bandy in Fleet, London, MDX, ENG,This is probably the marriage - possibly a bit too early for the baptism but ......1,2 

Family

Thomas Bandy b. c 1675
Children

Citations

  1. [S107] Baptism Records :baptism: geneanet: St. James, Clarkenwell from the yeare of Our Lorde God 1551 (Volume 10)     Mother at Baptism.
  2. [S104] Online marriage record :Marriage: Ancestry : London, England, Clandestine Marriage and Baptism Registers, 1667-1754 Entry book of Fleet marriages, 1692 Feb - 1702 Sep
    Marriage: Ancestry: London, England, Clandestine Marriage and Baptism Registers, 1667-1754, image seen.
  3. [S107] Baptism Records :baptism: geneanet: St. James, Clarkenwell from the yeare of Our Lorde God 1551 (Volume 10) (26-Jun-21)
    https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=R_951868396 :England, Great BritainEngland Births & Baptisms 1538-1975R_951868396
    Baptism: IGI indexed Clerkenwell 1703.02.05.
  4. [S107] Baptism Records :(26-Jun-21) https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=R_951868397 :England, Great BritainEngland Births & Baptisms 1538-1975R_951868397
    Baptism: IGI Indexed Clerkenwell 1704.08.10
    baptism: geneanet: St. James, Clarkenwell from the yeare of Our Lorde God 1551 (Volume 10).
  5. [S107] Baptism Records :baptism: geneanet: St. James, Clarkenwell from the yeare of Our Lorde God 1551 (Volume 10)
    (26-Jun-21) https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=R_951895894 :England, Great BritainEngland Births & Baptisms 1538-1975R_951895894
    Baptism: IGI indexed Clerkenwell 1707.02.25.
  6. [S107] Baptism Records :(26-Jun-21) https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=R_951897112 :England, Great BritainEngland Births & Baptisms 1538-1975R_951897112
    Baptism: IGI indexed Clerkenwell 1708.05.22
    baptism: geneanet: St. James, Clarkenwell from the yeare of Our Lorde God 1551 (Volume 10).
  7. [S107] Baptism Records :(26-Jun-21) https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=R_951872912 :England, Great BritainEngland Births & Baptisms 1538-1975R_951872912
    Baptism: IGI indexed Clerkenwell 1709.04.07
    baptism: geneanet: St. James, Clarkenwell from the yeare of Our Lorde God 1551 (Volume 10).
  8. [S107] Baptism Records :(26-Jun-21) https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=R_951862401 :England, Great BritainEngland Births & Baptisms 1538-1975R_951862401
    baptism: geneanet: St. James, Clarkenwell from the yeare of Our Lorde God 1551 (Volume 10)
    Baptism: IGI Indexed Clerkenwell 1710.09.17.
  9. [S107] Baptism Records :(26-Jun-21) https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=R_951862202 :England, Great BritainEngland Births & Baptisms 1538-1975R_951862202
    Baptism: IGI Indexed Clerkenwell 1714.10.24
    baptism: geneanet: St. James, Clarkenwell from the yeare of Our Lorde God 1551 (Volume 10).
Last Edited10 Jul 2021

George Henry New1

b. c 1885
Birth*c 1885 George Henry New whose parents are unknown was born c 1885.1 
Marriage*Sep 1906  On Sep 1906 George Henry New married Eliza Bandy, daughter of Thomas Bandy and Elisa Clark, in Tamworth, STS, ENG.1 

Family

Eliza Bandy b. 9 Jul 1885

Citations

  1. [S25] Researcher: Peter G Jones' complete extract of the GRO Index :Marriage: PJ: GRO 6b 762(D:11A) Tamworth 1906.09.00.
Last Edited16 Aug 2015

Jeanette Emily Newbury1

b. 23 Mar 1898, d. Jun 1969
ReferenceD1165-S1
Chartsline of Richard's Father c 1505
Birth*23 Mar 1898 Jeanette Emily Newbury whose parents are unknown was born on Wednesday, 23 Mar 1898.1,2 
Marriage*Dec 1924  On Dec 1924 aged 26 Jeanette Emily Newbury married Edward Harold Bandy, son of George Bandy and Henrietta Georgina King, in Mile End, MDX, ENG.1,3 
1939 Register*29 Sep 1939  Jeanette Emily Newbury is listed in the 1939 Register with Edward Harold Bandy at 33 North Avenue, Southend-on-Sea, ESS, ENG, the entry contains In the Hodge Household. 09 Aug 1900 Male Metal Polisher Grinder Heavy Worker & 23 Mar 1898 Female Coat Dress Machinist.2 
Death*Jun 1969 Jeanette Emily Newbury died at age 71 , Southend, ESS in Jun 1969 (Born 23rd March 1898).4 

Family

Edward Harold Bandy b. 9 Aug 1900, d. Dec 1962
Child

Citations

  1. [S9] Researcher: Ken Bandy including his extract and work on the GRO Indexes.
  2. [S101] Derek BandyFind My Past, "1939 Register" :FmP: 1939 Register: RG101/1465C/022/36 Letter Code: DAGT.
  3. [S25] Researcher: Peter G Jones' complete extract of the GRO Index :PJ: GRO 1c 557(D:19).
  4. [S25] Researcher: Peter G Jones' complete extract of the GRO Index :PJ: GRO 4a 2401(D:63).
Last Edited5 Jul 2016

Elizabeth Newland

b. 1832
ReferenceD0444-S2
FatherWilliam Newland1 b. b 1814, d. a 1832
Chartsline of Richard's Father c 1505
Birth*1832 Elizabeth Newland , daughter of William Newland, was born in 1832. 
Marriage*b 1856  On b 1856 Elizabeth Newland married unknown Burrow.2 
Marriage*18 Nov 1856  On Tuesday, 18 Nov 1856 Elizabeth Newland married Richard Maze Bandey, son of John Bandey and Mary Ann Langley, in St Andrews, Holborn, MDX, ENG,Both widowed, he age 37 a bricklayer son of John, a bricklayer, she age 24, both living at Bagnigge Wells Road. The witnesses were Thomas and Caroline Ashton.3,4 
Census 1861*7 Apr 1861 Elizabeth Newland and Richard Maze Bandey appeared in the 1861 census at 6 Easton Place, St James, Clerkenwell, MDX, ENG. The whole family is listed as MAYS. Richard and Elizabeth are now married: He is 41 a bricklayer, she is 30.5 
(Witness) Death21 May 1863 Elizabeth Newland witnessed the Death of Richard Maze Bandey on 21 May 1863 at Workhouse, Clerkenwell, MDX, ENG; Bricklayer, age 43 of Phttiisis (probably TB).3 
Residence*12 Jun 1868  On 12 Jun 1868 Elizabeth lived at City Road Workhouse (St Luke's Workhouse) , Holborn, MDX, ENG, admitted to workhouse age 33, discharge date not found.6 
Census*2 Apr 1871 She appeared on the census of 2 Apr 1871 at St James, Clerkenwell, MDX, ENG; head age 40.7 

Family 1

unknown Burrow b. c 1825, d. b 1856

Family 2

Richard Maze Bandey b. 31 Aug 1819, d. 21 May 1863
Children

Citations

  1. [S14] Certified Copy of Birth Marriage or Death Entry :daaughter Elizaabeth's M Cert.
  2. [S14] Certified Copy of Birth Marriage or Death Entry :She was a widow BURROW nee NEWLAND when she married Richard Maze BANDY.
  3. [S14] Certified Copy of Birth Marriage or Death Entry.
  4. [S6] General Register Office Index Entry :GRO Ref: 1b 627.
  5. [S2] 1861 Census :1861 Census: Ancestry: Class: RG 9; Piece: 193; Folio: 90; Page: 34; GSU roll: 542589.
  6. [S112] Poor Law record :Workhouse: Ancestry: London, England, Workhouse Admission and Discharge Records, 1659-1930 HOBG/542/01 image seen.
  7. [S68] Ancestry.com :Ancestry.com Census Index 1871 Census.
  8. [S16] Derek Bandy, "Conjecture by Derek Bandy" :probably child of first marriage, birth not found.
Last Edited28 Dec 2018

William Newland1

b. b 1814, d. a 1832
Birth*b 1814 William Newland whose parents are unknown was born b 1814.2 
Death*a 1832 William Newland died a 1832. 

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S14] Certified Copy of Birth Marriage or Death Entry :daaughter Elizaabeth's M Cert.
  2. [S16] Derek Bandy, "Conjecture by Derek Bandy" :from Daughters birth.
Last Edited18 Aug 2003